Nukeproof Warhead Carbon Bars

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Nukeproof have been making bars for several years now but these are the first carbon ones that we’ve ever seen from them. From what I’ve heard they have been working on these for a fair old while and in the process they’ve destructively tested a huge number of prototypes, and their competitors bars. The aim wasn’t just to produce one of the strongest bars on the market, it was also to produce one that doesn’t shatter catastrophically should it ever fail. Nukeproof reckon they’ve managed to achieve those goals, and the result is a bar which they say is considerably stronger than any of their aluminium offerings, and yet at 241g this carbon bar is around 60g lighter.

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Shape wise it is identical to Nukeproof’s aluminium bars with 20mm rise, 9° back-sweep and 6° up-sweep. In our eyes those are good numbers, and whilst there may be a few riders for whom the 760mm width isn’t quite enough, all of us here at Dirt reckon that’s plenty enough for our tastes. Talking of tastes, we also really like the overall finish of these bars. The matt finish is nicely understated whilst the graphics are clean and crisp. The textured surface in the bar clamp area is also a nice touch as you never really want to have to crank your stem bolts up too tight when you’re using carbon bars, yet you also don’t want your bars rotating. This surface finish just helps make sure that’s never an issue. Riders who like to keep their bike in tip top condition will also like the inclusion of two custom shaped clear 3M adhesive patches which you can use to ward off any scuffs and the like.

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Overall then these certainly seem to be up there with the best carbon bars on the market, and yet their price is definitely at the lower end of the spectrum. That combination of qualities should make these bars very popular indeed.

Price: £99.99
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  1. Steve

    Yet another great, solid review from Dirt. Good job Ed.

  2. James

    “to produce one that doesn’t shatter catastrophically should it ever fail.”

    So what does the failure mode look like?

    If they made this in a flat bar, I’d get one.

    1. Pedro

      Another supporter of the flat bar!!

  3. Gabe

    “Overall then these certainly seem to be up there with the best carbon bars on the market”

    That is one hell of a claim… One I’m sure easton would have something to say about. Side by side test maybe? Or at least some insight into the actual results of Nukeproofs own destructive testing of theirs vs. competitors. Please?

    I’m with James in that I’d like to see what these do look like when they have failed. They certainly aren’t going to bend…

    1. Ed

      I’ve been asked not to mention any specific brand names, but basically the lab tests that Nukeproof carried out revealed that these bars were only beaten in terms of strength by one other bar (you can probably guess which one), but they felt the strength that these offered was still more than enough (they beat all the other bars they tested) and they were much happier with the way in which these bars failed compared to the only bars which were stronger.

      1. gabe

        interesting. That does indeed sound strong enough. I’d still love to see a photo of a failed one. Can’t quite imagine how it could fail non-catastrophically. Splitting into fibers and going all floppy rather than a sharp edged snap I suppose. Still your going to hit the floor with your face either way. Is higher all out strength better in this regard? (unlike a metal bar where bending is massively safer than snapping)

      2. Ed

        The high strength Vs not so evil failure is an interesting topic. I mean there are definitely a load of riders who won’t ever consider running carbon bars because they have in their mind that aluminium ones will simply bend whereas carbon will instantly snap. Even if that was the case you could argue that some carbon bars are now so strong that you’re never going to be able to break them, your arms will break first instead. And if you did ever manage to break them then you can sure as hell bet that if you had been riding an aluminium pair of bars the forces involved wouldn’t have just bent the bars, they’d have destroyed them.
        I find the whole carbon snaps and aluminium bends thing funny anyway because I really don’t think you can say that’s the case all the time. I say that because yes I have bent aluminium bars, but at the same time I have also snapped two pairs clean in half in the past, without any kind of warning. The same can also be said for aluminium frames. On the flip side I have seen carbon products seemingly self-destruct, but then I also have a friend who smashed the chainstay of his carbon hardtail into some rocks years ago, leaving a big split in the tube, and then much to my amazement he’s still riding the bloody thing to this day!

      3. gabe

        Let it be known that if I had the money I would probably run carbon everything. It is only the cost that stops me (except maybe spokes, still too many errant rock strikes… maybe) What I was trying to get at is that it seems to make sense to design certain weaknesses into a metal bar, so that it bends long before snapping (easy with steel, harder with ali) whereas this may well be pointless with a carbon bar as a) an undamaged bar will probably break you before it breaks, as you mentioned and b) the failure mode is incredibly unpredictable as carbon will not bend. I am no expert, and perhaps they could be designed to reliably fail exactly as your mates hardtail has, but that sounds like a fluke to me. I find myself thinking that he probably rides the thing far less aggressively now than he used to. I would not be averse to riding a mildly bent ali bar home, avoiding the larger jumps but otherwise fairly confident of my safety (to be replaced immediately at home of course) whereas a carbon bar with the slightest of splits anywhere I wouldnt even be happy to just sit down pedalling along a flat road. just in case. This is why I’d like to see what is thought of as a “safe” failure in a carbon bar. In my eyes they are all catastrophic apart from in extremely rare, unpredictable and lucky cases such as your mates frame.

  4. Cyrus

    I’m disappointed that they couldn’t get “NUKEPROOF” on there just a few dozen more times in a big shouty font. It’s only on there, what, twenty times? Far too subtle for my tastes.

    1. Hancock

      They must have hired the Easton graphics guy

  5. Cyrus

    Or “SAM HILL”. Maybe if they could just stamp “SAM HILL” on there, just anywhere on the bar that’d be fully sick.

    1. Gabe

      Yeah Man!! If they put 5 more NUKEPROOFs and a big SAM HILL somewhere on there that would make the carbon at least 10% lighter 12% stronger and 9% more compliant while at the same time exactly 9% stiffer. They would also NEVER fail but then when they did fail they would not snap! Then no other bar on the market could even come close. They should also do them in chrome. Chrome is awesome!

  6. Andrew Cunningham

    Rest easy lads, they printed Nukeproof a further 11 times inside the bar.

  7. Jerome Thomas

    I’m with Gabe on this one. I’d buy them if they did that, even if they were 200% more expensive.

  8. Tobias Wildebeast

    If I buy the Sam Hill version do I have to run flats?

  9. Real slim fordy

    You should be running flats

  10. Dunford

    I bet the Renthal Bars were the “Hardest” I’m with Cyrus the graphics are to busy, Maybe a black on black sort of stealth type logo would be beter suited.

  11. Spodhopper

    Renthal bars are Ali.. not carbon..

    the Easton Havoc 35 Carbon however.. ;)

  12. james

    I’d still want to know how they are designed to fail non catastrophically and not just take the manufacturer’s PR word for it.

    I am sure they are strong, that’s not the issue. The issue is how they might fail when they have already been put through a battering over time, either by mild crashes or transport damage.

    I’ve stuck to aluminum and titanium bars for years as my bike gets beaten around in vans and airplanes without being boxed up. I can see if damage has occurred and can judge how serious it is. I’d worry about not being able to make an accurate call on carbon damage, whether it was cosmetic or structural.

    The Santa Cruz v10 video up on the net is a good example… The carbon frame tests far stronger than the aluminum one, but when it fails it does so very suddenly.

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