2013 Dirt 100: YT Tues 2.0

YT Tues 2.0

DH Bike Of The Year 2013

This bike’s crowning glory is surely its untouchable value for money (how do they do it?), yet its performance and YT’s attention to detail certainly can’t be sniffed at. With looks and a spec list as supreme as it is, it’s impossible to ignore the firm’s desire to climb to the top rung of the downhill market, just as they are making a similar assault on every other discipline.

Steve Jones, Dirt’s bike tester, describes this one as “insane!” – but not only with regards to its price, more so how it rides. The angles, the components, the suspension tune…they simply cannot be faulted. Neither the ease with which anyone can jump on the bike and feel comfortable from the get-go. This really is the downhill rider’s choice right now – if you aren’t looking to win World Cups then you certainly won’t feel let down by a lack of carbon or titles.

Problems? The only potential issue for UK residents is that cutting out the middleman (as YT’s are only available direct) does mean that any problems with the bike will mean sending it back to Germany. We have come to decide that there truly is no other bike out there that can match the YT’s overall package, perhaps the Demo or Session, but then you could get several of these for the same price…

Price: €2499.00

YT Industries: +4991917 363 050

www.YT-industries.com

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  1. Someone

    I bought one of these and took it out for the first time last weekend. I haven’t ridden DH for 8 years prior to this and the comments are spot on, this thing is so natural and comfortable to ride! Within 30 mins I was taking on jumps that I definitely would have thought twice about 8 years ago and the bike was giving me so much confidence. It’s also not just the spec, the attention to detail on this bike is fantastic – colour coordinated down to the spoke nipples, a raised logo on the headtube and really tidy cable routing. In short a very sexy bike and the photos don’t do it justice.
    (FYI my last bike was a 02 Kona Stab, so probably not a great point of reference..)
    Re. getting it from Germany – that was a long wait and some transit damage meant that it sat in my living room for 2 weeks whilst I waited for spare parts to arrive. YT are reasonably responsive on e-mail and didn’t quibble about the transit damage, but there’s definitely a price to pay (of the bike shop not being just down the road..). Having said that they upgraded the rear shock to the BOS Stoy Rare just for the wait, which is an awesome thing to do… (does your local shop do that!!).

  2. Tinks

    Did you have to pay VAT on top or is that included in the price?

    1. Hancock

      VAT is included in the price, as they come from Germany they’ve already paid Germany’s various import taxes and George doesn’t get to take a second bite thanks to some EU treaty type thing. Which is nice.

  3. andy

    im thinking of getting the new yt tues 2.0 but i cant decide between this and the canyon frx whipzone ?

  4. Someone

    Tinks – you don’t need to pay VAT if it’s within the eurozone. Delivery was about 40 euros. Had to set up an international payments account to make the transfer (and get a decent exchange rate). All in all it came in at about £2050-2100. Immediate upgrades were superstar pedals (in matching electric blue) and maxxis tyres (the Kenda tyres got a pinch on the second run of the day..!).

  5. Someone

    Andy – I was looking at Canyon too. I obviously didn’t have a chance to ride either bike but from the geometry and reviews I went for the Tues on the basis that it seemed a purer breed DH bike, whereas the canyon seemed like a big freeride bike. The Tues also had a full UK review which the Canyon didn’t (Dirt I think). Personal choice and a bit of guesswork…!

  6. Machete

    this bike is unreal. i get to ride a lot of different bikes and this one is my current favourite. unbeatable for the money, it’s even cheaper than most used V10′s and Demo 8′s and it performs every bit as good. looks the part as well

  7. Rgblackb

    I just got one of these came with a boss shock aswell which is a bonus, also ordered a couple spare mech hangers at the same time. Amazing bike to ride, hopped on and rode it like I’d never ridden anything else.

  8. Craig B

    They need to sort shipping to Australia. Pricing on bike here is a joke. The Aussie’s would go mad for a bike like this at this price point.

    1. John Colthorpe

      They plan too, Specialized holds the patents for their designs in AUS and NZ and other places like USA etc, so the next model with completely different geo that they bring out will be available worldwide.. But will it be of the same quality is the question.

  9. John.

    Rode Jones’ test bike at FOD,it was amazing for a bike at that price,or any price for that matter.

  10. dave

    I have the Ltd WC edition and must say this bike absolutely rocks, picks up and maintains speed so well, balance is spot on too just a shame i’ll probably never get near to getting the best out of it

  11. Oz

    I know this bike is cheap but what do you expect when it is sold direct. It is just me who feels uneasy about Dirt publicising and really making a noise about the bike being good value for money? What happens if you need a repair or warranty claim on say the forks or rear shock? Do Fisher Outdoor here in the UK honour the warranty on these components or do we have to ship them back to YT in Germany to then be repaired by who???

    Times are hard for everyone, but cutting out the middle man just means that your local bike shop will eventually go tits up. They can’t survive on flogging innertubes on a Saturday afternoon. Companies who sell direct or sell grey imports or become too powerful (a certain Irish Internet retailer) only devalue and damage the bike industry.

    Just my two cents.

    1. Dent

      While the concept of brands selling direct to the public is relatively new in cycling it isn’t new at all. The surf, skate, snow, and apparel industries have been selling direct for years. And its not small brands either. You can buy Nike’s direct from the Nike website from anywhere in the world, and I dont see any of us losing sleep about our local shoe stores going out of business. The cycling industry is one of the last to embrace the evolution of retail, and while I dont agree with everything that comes with buying direct, I dont think we should be quick to simply rule it out. After all, if companies like YT allow more kids to get their hands on affordable bikes its can only be good for the sport. And when the sport grows so does the business that goes with it (and that includes business for bike stores who are willing to adapt).

      1. Someone

        Bit of a difference with Nike – they won’t be reducing their prices online to take out the retailers cut (they’ll take more margin) whereas YT do, meaning they sell at a much lower price than they would in retail. That’s also why YT won’t be able to sell retail because no-one would buy when direct is so much cheaper. Worth remembering though that would also includes on-line stores that aren’t YT’s site, not just physical stores.

      2. Oz

        I agree with you on some points, that retail is changing and the bicycle industry has to adapt and also that yeah, allowing people to get their hands on good products for less money will also help the sport to grow. I think the main difference is that the skate/surf/snow brands etc sell at and stick to RRPs on their websites (at least whilst the products are current season), allowing the retailers the freedom to compete and offer discounts if they need to. If the manufacturers started undercutting their own retail/distribution channels, maybe things would change.

        I think the issue is that a bicycle is far more complex than a single item (of clothing for example). It is made up of components from multiple manufacturers, with different warranty levels and guarantees applied to different parts. Like I said before, what if something critical like the rear shock fails? Do we have to ship the part back to Germany? How long is the turnaround time for warranty work such as this? As these companies grow and they have to deal with thousands of warranty claims, are they able to rachieve good levels of after sales service? The regular distribution model means that those thousands of customers are spread out over hundreds of retailers, meaning a more personal service for the end user.

        I know that in the UK if you had a problem you could take it back to the shop where you got it from and they would deal with the warranty claim. Not only that, most good shops would lend you a part to keep you riding in the meantime, usually for the cost of a packet of biscuits.

        Sorry that turned into an essay. It’s a complex subject. Probably not the best place to discuss it.

      3. cobblers

        Hmm, comparing bikes to shoes…’I don’t see any of us losing sleep about our local shoe store going out of business’…. yes, but, if my 3 grand breaks, it’s gonna be a bit different than a pair of 80 quid nikes no being right, isn’t it? How many times have you heard this, ‘Hang on I’m just popping my nike’s back to the shoe shop under warranty’? Shyte comparison, I’m afraid.

    2. Joe

      I agree, in a limited sense. Yes, it makes me ‘uncomfortable’ to see Dirt (and MBUK even more so) give such prominence to direct-to-consumer brands, but this discomfort is only because it’s the unveiling of a secret that the bike industry has been trying to keep quiet for the last decade: high street bike retail is dying. Service/repair/P&A only shops are surely the new model. Most high street bike shops have already given up on selling suspension forks, and many have given up on shoes and clothing. I reckon in 5 years or so, the idea of a high street shop stocking £1000+ complete bikes will be laughable. Change, or die.

      1. Oz

        I don’t know, I think it will probably go the other way, where high street shops will have to specialise in providing a bespoke service to customers who are looking to spend £1000+ on a bike. Personally I wouldn’t spend that sort of money on a bike without putting my leg over it and giving it a try. Can’t do that on the internet.

      2. Hancock

        Companies like YT (and On One, Superstar, Canyon etc) wouldn’t exist if the major manufacturers weren’t so busy abusing the market. Complete bikes have sky rocketed in price in the last seven years or so, a full LX/fox damped bike could be had for easily under £2k, now for that same money you get hawked on Deore and bottom spec shocks.
        .
        They’ve (more specifically Giant, Trek, Specialized and others) blown a massive hole in the market seeing how far they can push prices. with any luck the presence of people like YT will force them to compete properly again as that mid-level market gets pulled from under their feet.
        .
        That could be very good for shops, either way bikes will still need repairs and commuters will still get punctures.

    3. Tomo

      I think the 35 pound odd an hour bike shops charge for maintenance will go a long way to keeping them open because my lbs is booked up for weeks in advance

  12. Tomo

    If you buy a bike from your local bike shop you should get better after sales service but this is not always true a number of times with different shops myself and some of my friends have had to remind them of our statutory rights as a consumer and at the end of the day your bike shop my be dealing with a manufacturer from another country and warranty claims could end up taking just as long (my cousin just waited a year and a half for evil revolt claim!) And with regards to throwing a leg over a bike before you try how much can you really tell in terms of longevity of a product? How much is it worth having a bike shop deal with my warranty two and a half grand? Don’t think so!

    1. Oz

      Yeah I understand your point of view. I’ve always been lucky enough to have a great local bike shop which has good relationships with it’s suppliers, and they have always come through with warranty claims.

      At least if you buy from a local shop you can go in and talk/complain/shout about your warranty work or whatever. If the shop doesn’t play ball then you can fall back on trading standards and UK law. Spending large amounts of money with foreign companies could be bad news, especially if they insist on up front payments with credit cards.

      I might start my own company – knock up an off the shelf frame from Taiwan and build a fancy website. Put all the best components on it, give it an impossibly low RRP then send it to the magazines for review. The reviews are great – wow, amazing value for money etc. Then I say this bike is only available to buy for one week, it’s limited to 100 orders and they must be pre paid using a credit card. The bike is £2500 with free worldwide delivery. So, after 1 week I have £250,000 in my bank account. Then I might decide to find a dodgy accountant and disappear abroad somewhere.

      Sorry, just an (unlikely) scenario that popped into my head.

      1. Fishybob

        James Bond will find you in your undercover evil island and kick your butt.

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